tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post2706006860192415856..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: A Funny Thing Happened in San AntonioBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-31870547103438466712007-06-16T15:58:00.000-05:002007-06-16T15:58:00.000-05:00Bro. Bart -Please don't infer my comments as a cha...Bro. Bart -<BR/><BR/>Please don't infer my comments as a challenge to you. We're good. I think it's good to talk-out the issues of church membership with others who are pastors. Until the apokatastasis panton we'll need to work these things out.<BR/><BR/>:)<BR/><BR/>BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-90256803696852809102007-06-16T11:15:00.000-05:002007-06-16T11:15:00.000-05:00Ben,Brother...we need to talk in person. Have I gi...Ben,<BR/><BR/>Brother...we need to talk in person. Have I given the impression somehow that I have assigned you to some "track" other than mine? Not so. I value our friendship and embrace you as a brother. I disagreed with an assessment of yours once over at Marty's place, but that was given in the same spirit as one might have found in Captain Kirk's Eschatology seminar.<BR/><BR/>I would not Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-87835689646566021232007-06-16T11:11:00.000-05:002007-06-16T11:11:00.000-05:00Brother Stratton - Graves and J.M. Carroll are eas...Brother Stratton - <BR/><BR/>Graves and J.M. Carroll are easy to put into the Landmark camp. B.H. differed on so many aspects of Landmarkism than either Graves or his brother that it is very problematic to put him in the same boat (especially considering how he ousted people who fought convention association). <BR/><BR/>Carroll was a "dyed-in-the-wool" postmillennialist while Graves was a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-42658290821566088852007-06-16T11:03:00.000-05:002007-06-16T11:03:00.000-05:00Bart - Amen. Sounds like we are on the same page. ...Bart - <BR/><BR/>Amen. Sounds like we are on the same page. We carefully went over the parts of AOG theology that differed from Baptist theology and as far as I could tell, he was of like faith (order I don't know about). The man we welcomed into our fellowship believed in the security of the believer.<BR/><BR/>We had one man who insisted that this new member be re-baptized. But I contended that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-6013450775488957152007-06-16T08:02:00.000-05:002007-06-16T08:02:00.000-05:00Brothers Bart and BenLandmarkism does exist in the...Brothers Bart and Ben<BR/><BR/>Landmarkism does exist in the Southern Baptist Convention and is perhaps more widespread than many realize. Two factors in finding landmarkers are: 1) Terminology = There are many Southern Baptist Landmarkers who dislike or are ignore of the term "Landmarkism". 2) Wording = A lot depends on how you word the various points of Landmarkism. Consider the following:<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-25200771121885616032007-06-16T02:15:00.000-05:002007-06-16T02:15:00.000-05:00Ben,I would think that, in my blogging, I have alr...Ben,<BR/><BR/>I would think that, in my blogging, I have already demonstrated to the world that I lack the restraint to keep from jumping right onto the spot all by myself. My apologies for failing to articulate a theology of the ordinances. While replying, I failed to consider that first comment of yours.<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty much in the "like faith and order" position on both ordinances, Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-88426572665729987712007-06-15T21:58:00.000-05:002007-06-15T21:58:00.000-05:00Bart (old chap)It's good to blog with you again. I...Bart (old chap)<BR/><BR/>It's good to blog with you again. I think you're absolutely right about the successionist historiography; very few are that eager to claim the Donatists is Baptist history. As to the church universal my only evidence is anecdotal. As far as I know, I'm the only one who makes a point to emphasize the local, visible church and refer to the universal church as really Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-70320352313447363572007-06-15T17:39:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:39:00.000-05:00Kyle,Thanks for stopping by. I'm glad you enjoy th...Kyle,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by. I'm glad you enjoy the blog. Comment more often!Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-35798800670621886732007-06-15T17:38:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:38:00.000-05:00Ben,My brother and my friend, I'm so glad to have ...Ben,<BR/><BR/>My brother and my friend, I'm so glad to have you join the conversation. You'll have to understand—this medium rarely permits the kind of depth that we were able to pursue sitting around the conference table.<BR/><BR/>Real Landmarkism (only Baptist churches are valid churches) does still exist in the SBC, but there's not nearly as much of it as there was 100 years ago (an Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-60956530137829602342007-06-15T17:30:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:30:00.000-05:00Jeremy,Brother, I know you didn't get in. Spooky p...Jeremy,<BR/><BR/>Brother, I know you didn't get in. Spooky people weren't allowed.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-35602927440081846742007-06-15T17:29:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:29:00.000-05:00Dr. Yarnell,Thanks for making sure this will be an...Dr. Yarnell,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for making sure this will be an accurate primary source! :-)Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-23115070507566377822007-06-15T17:28:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:28:00.000-05:00Jerry,Pretty funny!Jerry,<BR/><BR/>Pretty funny!Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-14729203692425078962007-06-15T17:25:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:25:00.000-05:00I thought Paul was Landmark by cutting out the fol...I thought Paul was Landmark by cutting out the followers of Darby when he said 1 Thess 4:13 But I would not have you .. ignorant, brethren," :)<BR/> SteveGroseys messageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09256060632754175527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-9228882276973304282007-06-15T17:06:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:06:00.000-05:00Gotta go...supper time. I'll try to finish up late...Gotta go...supper time. I'll try to finish up later.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-22438900793452216692007-06-15T17:05:00.001-05:002007-06-15T17:05:00.001-05:00Ron,I forgot the camera, or I would have.Ron,<BR/><BR/>I forgot the camera, or I would have.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-30970665953669819782007-06-15T17:05:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:05:00.000-05:00Ben,:-)Ben,<BR/><BR/>:-)Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-74844343749655966642007-06-15T17:04:00.001-05:002007-06-15T17:04:00.001-05:00David,You are a treasure, my brother. I look forwa...David,<BR/><BR/>You are a treasure, my brother. I look forward to more and more time with you in the future.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-23729269275277268872007-06-15T17:04:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:04:00.000-05:00Strider,Perhaps the best way to determine what Jes...Strider,<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the best way to determine what Jesus would do is to look at what Jesus did. When having the Last Supper, did Jesus stand out on the street and indiscriminately invite Jerusalem inside?<BR/><BR/>Let us build a theology of the ordinances from something other than subjective suppositions about how Jesus wants us to make people feel. There's plenty of biblical material to Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-82667190878727524032007-06-15T17:01:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:01:00.000-05:00Tony,I go to all of this work to keep my likeness ...Tony,<BR/><BR/>I go to all of this work to keep my likeness hidden from my readers (for the sake of their own digestion), and here you are splattering not only an image but LIVE STREAMING VIDEO of my own self!!!<BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for reading.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-80241024536531888692007-06-15T17:00:00.000-05:002007-06-15T17:00:00.000-05:00Bob Pogue,Brother, we will meet at some point. Let...Bob Pogue,<BR/><BR/>Brother, we will meet at some point. Let's just make it here on this earth. ;-)Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-62112469605904077872007-06-15T16:59:00.000-05:002007-06-15T16:59:00.000-05:00To all: I'm in Houston with Tracy's family. I've b...To all: I'm in Houston with Tracy's family. I've been steering clear of the blogs today, but I'll take a moment to make a small dent in keeping up with comments. Thanks to all of you for stopping by.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-17615742299813717652007-06-15T16:15:00.000-05:002007-06-15T16:15:00.000-05:00Thats just funny, I Enjoy your blogKyle CaudellThats just funny, I Enjoy your blog<BR/><BR/>Kyle CaudellKylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078383325733342303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-70295004369636597982007-06-15T14:18:00.000-05:002007-06-15T14:18:00.000-05:00Bart - I found the following in Wikipedia:"Praise-...Bart - I found the following in Wikipedia:<BR/><BR/>"Praise-God Barebone (or Barbon; c.1596 – 1679) was an English leather-seller, preacher and Fifth Monarchist. He became a freeman of the Leathersellers Company in January 1623. Around the same time, he began preaching to large audiences that assembled at his house, The Lock and Key in Fleet Street, London. The exact nature of his religious Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-79845944325400086762007-06-15T08:36:00.000-05:002007-06-15T08:36:00.000-05:00Bart - BTW, I do visit your blog. I just prefer to...Bart - <BR/><BR/>BTW, I do visit your blog. I just prefer to soak it all in rather than comment (usually).<BR/><BR/>Question: How much real Landmarkism is still in the convention vs a strongly-developed ecclesiology that identifies solely with Baptist concerns, but a) does not have Landmarkism's historiographical flaws, and b)does not consider the question of the existence of the "in-time" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-27356940394200291412007-06-14T23:28:00.000-05:002007-06-14T23:28:00.000-05:00I wonder if any of the people throwing the "landma...I wonder if any of the people throwing the "landmark" accusation at you have ever examined your ecclesiology. What is your stance on open vs. closed communion and alien immersion?<BR/><BR/>Ben MacklinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com