tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post3157118069875440455..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Why I Would Support a Name Change for the SBCBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-59888786950585274372011-12-27T20:55:22.264-06:002011-12-27T20:55:22.264-06:00Bart:
One other thing.
The LifeWay name change i...Bart:<br /><br />One other thing.<br /><br />The LifeWay name change is completely unrelated to the decision to sell The Shack or any other particular work.<br /><br />The change of the name to "LifeWay" was to communicate more effectively to the world and the body of Christ. <br /><br />I believe it has been positive.<br /><br />We also have expanded stores into new areas.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-37728874955772303252011-12-27T20:52:14.199-06:002011-12-27T20:52:14.199-06:00Bart:
Sorry. Just got around to your response. ...Bart:<br /><br />Sorry. Just got around to your response. I realize that this is so long gone, that you may not reply.<br /><br />I agree that by percentage, the SBC is still Southern.<br /><br />But it is not nearly as Southern as when that name was selected. <br /><br />We have 3 seminaries that are not in the South.<br /><br />We have churches in many states outside of the South.<br /><br /Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1374689016404880492011-12-20T16:02:15.893-06:002011-12-20T16:02:15.893-06:00Vol,
You are so polite.
Now, if I was going to ...Vol,<br /><br />You are so polite. <br /><br />Now, if I was going to respond to Anony CT, I would probably say something like:<br /><br />Did you say you are a Baptist pastor? Did you say you "loved The Shack"?<br /><br />Is your church in Neverland and are all of your congregants theo-dwarves like you obviously are?<br /><br />That is How I would have responded Vol if I were going to CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-68022850370012273642011-12-20T10:50:09.436-06:002011-12-20T10:50:09.436-06:00Anonymous,
For anyone to say that the Shack is Bi...Anonymous,<br /><br />For anyone to say that the Shack is Biblical just shows how little of the Bible that you really know. I mean, for you to give a call for people to be more Biblical, while shouting the praises of "The Shack" is laughable.<br /><br />The Shack is so full of heresy that it aint funny.<br /><br />David<br /><br />PS. I noticed you said all of this anonymously.....I volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-79343253705022680342011-12-19T11:34:18.199-06:002011-12-19T11:34:18.199-06:00"The unbaptisting of Lifeway." Really? ..."The unbaptisting of Lifeway." Really? As a baptist pastor I loved "The Shack." I must say that some unbaptisting is not always a bad thing. Maybe we should be more concerned with how biblical we are than how baptist we are.<br /><br />CTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-742266703996204122011-12-15T09:51:18.643-06:002011-12-15T09:51:18.643-06:00Lifeway's desire to fit in with the world is a...Lifeway's desire to fit in with the world is also seen in this...<br /><br />http://bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=36798<br /><br />But, at least they changed it, unlke the Shack and the Snuggie. Also, they sell Priest shirts. They have a whole shelf dedicated to different colored, Priest shirts. You know, the kind with the little white thing in the front of the collar. <br /><br />Davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-50336140241679687182011-12-14T21:46:47.039-06:002011-12-14T21:46:47.039-06:00Jeff Moore,
I guess if a guy filled a truck up wi...Jeff Moore,<br /><br />I guess if a guy filled a truck up with those personal journals LifeWay sells, what you say would be true.<br /><br />On the other hand, if guy filled a truck up with the various study Bibles LifeWay sells, he would have all the truth he will ever need.<br /><br />So I guess it kinda depends on the kind of books a guy fills the truck up with as to "being exposed to theCB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58168190075103048572011-12-13T15:57:45.656-06:002011-12-13T15:57:45.656-06:00Well said Bart. A person could fill up a truck wi...Well said Bart. A person could fill up a truck with books at Lifeway, read them all, and never be exposed to the truth. I reckon I'm kinda glad our Baptist name is not on the marque.Jeff Moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-90892154907746579632011-12-13T13:29:47.128-06:002011-12-13T13:29:47.128-06:00Louis,
I love you in Christ and am so thankful fo...Louis,<br /><br />I love you in Christ and am so thankful for your readership. I'm delighted to be partnered with you in the SBC.<br /><br />But your comments make me feel like we are further apart in our perceptions and opinions, not closer together:<br /><br />1. By every statistical measure we are indeed Southern. The major rationale offered for the name change is our utter inability to Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-59445231995175991082011-12-08T20:48:23.064-06:002011-12-08T20:48:23.064-06:00Bart:
One other thing on the "Madison Avenue...Bart:<br /><br />One other thing on the "Madison Avenue" side of things.<br /><br />I think that the name change from the Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention and Baptist Bookstore to LifeWay was brilliant.<br /><br />One of the reasons I know that is how the secular left sneers at it in my hometown where LifeWay is located. Our non-Christian opponents openly talk Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-80958761735033892392011-12-08T20:43:06.330-06:002011-12-08T20:43:06.330-06:00Bart:
This post shows me that we are not really f...Bart:<br /><br />This post shows me that we are not really far apart on the name thing.<br /><br />I support an SBC name change because it would be appropriate. We are not really a Southern Baptist Convention anymore, and I think that the name should reflect who we are and where we want to go rather than our heritage.<br /><br />Those are the same reasons a merger would be a reason to change theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-41423840959546278142011-12-03T00:45:20.721-06:002011-12-03T00:45:20.721-06:00Bart,
If some Baptists would "drink antifree...Bart,<br /><br />If some Baptists would "drink antifreeze" before they joined the SBC, does that mean they would not be among the frozen chosen?CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-5736616304974572842011-12-02T22:06:44.139-06:002011-12-02T22:06:44.139-06:00I realize that such a proposal may be unpalatable ...<i>I realize that such a proposal may be unpalatable to people who are not inclusive and are not very tolerant of diversity in the interpretation of scripture. ;-)<br /><br /></i><br /><br />Oh, Debbie is very tolerant of various interpretations of scripture--as long as they're not conservative. :-)Joe Blackmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609279285784683781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-65306541017098706482011-12-02T18:31:30.690-06:002011-12-02T18:31:30.690-06:00Debbie,
I've found that when many people use ...Debbie,<br /><br />I've found that when many people use the word Fundamentalist, they simply mean "Anybody to the right of me." So, I suppose that the answer to your question depends upon what you mean by Fundamentalists.<br /><br />If you mean people to the right of you, then yes. <br /><br />If you mean people who affirm the five fundamentals, then I say yes. <br /><br />If you Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-53923842898068350722011-12-02T18:15:34.477-06:002011-12-02T18:15:34.477-06:00You said: Nevertheless, I can think of a circumsta...You said: Nevertheless, I can think of a circumstance in which I would entirely support—even advocate on behalf of—a name change for the Southern Baptist Convention. There are a number of smaller Baptist groups around the nation that are biblically conservative and convictionally Baptist. Some of them might not regard the Southern Baptist Convention as conservative enough (even now!) for a Debbie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-46812464462533086442011-12-02T14:52:09.960-06:002011-12-02T14:52:09.960-06:00Growth is based upon structure. It began when the ...Growth is based upon structure. It began when the Apostles wanted to focus more on scripture than serving tables. I believe a complete new structure is appropriate for a new name, not just a new name.Bruce Harpnoreply@blogger.com