tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post3541961595486105265..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: The Incredible Spiritual Power of ApologyBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-65590850818054825242009-02-13T15:14:00.000-06:002009-02-13T15:14:00.000-06:00volfan007: baptist hereticus, Are your initials BC...<EM>volfan007: baptist hereticus, Are your initials BC? or, PL?</EM><BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: sorry that I missed your post. no.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12708057092455764102009-02-13T07:27:00.000-06:002009-02-13T07:27:00.000-06:00If you are ever in Birmingham, feel free to call m...<EM>If you are ever in Birmingham, feel free to call me and I will gladly share the gospel with you face-to-face. May God have mercy on your soul.</EM><BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: excellent, CB; perhaps I could attend one of your evangelism seminars where you share on the topic -- "So you think that only the Gospel can be offensive to some? Sure, but don't underestimate the power of the personalbapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-64512079105536994402009-02-13T06:45:00.000-06:002009-02-13T06:45:00.000-06:00I shall continue to pray for you Heretic. I shall ...I shall continue to pray for you Heretic. I shall pray that God convict you of your sin and show you you are damned for hell unless you repent and call upon the name of Jesus to save you.<BR/><BR/>If you are ever in Birmingham, feel free to call me and I will gladly share the gospel with you face-to-face. May God have mercy on your soul.<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-23260272697796481132009-02-13T06:23:00.000-06:002009-02-13T06:23:00.000-06:00CB: Beloved Heretic, leave off this vain search fo...<EM>CB: Beloved Heretic, leave off this vain search for significance and repent of sin and call upon Jesus for salvation from the penalty of your sin and rebellion toward Holy God.</EM><BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: OK, CB, if you are not Bart's peer, could you tell me who is? Is he without peer on this blog and among fellow baptists, yeah even among those to whom he ministers? Has the call to be bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-48787338698746027032009-02-12T21:46:00.000-06:002009-02-12T21:46:00.000-06:00My beloved Heretic,You ask me if I am Bart's peer....My beloved Heretic,<BR/><BR/>You ask me if I am Bart's peer.<BR/><BR/>I must honestly confess Bart is not my peer. Nor are you.<BR/><BR/>For, of all sinners living presently; I am chief. I have no peer.<BR/><BR/>Yet, even though I am chief of all sinners, God's grace was sufficient to save me from the hell I most assuredly deserve. <BR/><BR/>Therefore, my Heretic friend, If the atonement of CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-84029251600622620612009-02-12T21:21:00.000-06:002009-02-12T21:21:00.000-06:00Bapt. Heretic,You should listen to CB. This man h...Bapt. Heretic,<BR/><BR/>You should listen to CB. This man has shown you the love and concern of Christ this fine day.<BR/><BR/>Davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-50412171037813043382009-02-12T20:38:00.000-06:002009-02-12T20:38:00.000-06:00BH: I thought that my questions and examples were ...<EM>BH: I thought that my questions and examples were clear. I am not adequately eloquent to make them any clearer. My apologies.</EM><BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: i think we understand where each stands. it is only on a single point that i am at a disadvantage given i don't have specific knowledge of the case. in any event, thank you for your responses.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-66629205203601357722009-02-12T20:33:00.000-06:002009-02-12T20:33:00.000-06:00CB: [1] To become a peer may never happen in relat...<EM>CB: [1] To become a peer may never happen in relation to Dr. Barber. Nor is it important. [2] What is important is that you banish any desire to be a peer to anyone and, also, to resist any temptation to present yourself as anyone's superior.</EM><BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: [1] but, CB if it were to happen, what would first need to happen? given you have evaluated me and my lack of peer bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-41078463150204824582009-02-12T20:09:00.000-06:002009-02-12T20:09:00.000-06:00BH:I thought that my questions and examples were c...BH:<BR/><BR/>I thought that my questions and examples were clear. I am not adequately eloquent to make them any clearer. My apologies.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58995439388593403972009-02-12T16:43:00.000-06:002009-02-12T16:43:00.000-06:00Heretic,To become a peer may never happen in relat...Heretic,<BR/><BR/>To become a peer may never happen in relation to Dr. Barber. Nor is it important.<BR/><BR/>What is important is that you banish any desire to be a peer to anyone and, also, to resist any temptation to present yourself as anyone's superior.<BR/><BR/>Those things are meaningless when we stand before a righteous and just God at an appointed time of which He alone knows.<BR/><BR/>CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-53016501102054164822009-02-12T15:21:00.000-06:002009-02-12T15:21:00.000-06:00bapticus hereticus: What would qualify me as a pee...bapticus hereticus: What would qualify me as a peer, CB?bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1477941427366273592009-02-12T14:44:00.000-06:002009-02-12T14:44:00.000-06:00Bart,it is my opinion that Heretic is lost and on ...Bart,<BR/><BR/>it is my opinion that Heretic is lost and on his way to hell. This is not due to his barbarian views relating to abortion and the sanctity of human life. It is due to the fact he cannot relate any real testimony of faith.<BR/><BR/>Also please know that to engage him is to commit yourself to debate a wad of bubble-gum.<BR/><BR/>He chews and chews and becomes more tasteless as the CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-3890126099257928582009-02-12T12:39:00.000-06:002009-02-12T12:39:00.000-06:00Bart: Here are the logical flaws in your argument,...Bart: Here are the logical flaws in your argument, BH. 1. You say: "That one has an abortion does not make one pro-abortion" Yet, the group in view is not the set of all people who have HAD an abortion. Rather, it is the set of all people who ADVOCATE the legality, availability, even subsidy of abortion. These are those who are pro-abortion. And this poses no problem at all for your bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-8161292859802170172009-02-12T10:32:00.000-06:002009-02-12T10:32:00.000-06:00Here are the logical flaws in your argument, BH.1....Here are the logical flaws in your argument, BH.<BR/><BR/>1. You say: "That one has an abortion does not make one pro-abortion"<BR/><BR/>Yet, the group in view is not the set of all people who have HAD an abortion. Rather, it is the set of all people who ADVOCATE the legality, availability, even subsidy of abortion. These are those who are pro-abortion. And this poses no problem at all Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-68122171155568315072009-02-12T10:27:00.000-06:002009-02-12T10:27:00.000-06:00baptist hereticus,Are your initials BC? or, PL?Da...baptist hereticus,<BR/><BR/>Are your initials BC? or, PL?<BR/><BR/>Davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-56063883142070245422009-02-12T10:19:00.000-06:002009-02-12T10:19:00.000-06:00Bart: "Pro-choice" does not accurately describe th...Bart: "Pro-choice" does not accurately describe the position. I'm in favor of a woman having every choice available to her one hour before her baby is born that President Obama is in favor of her having one hour after her baby is born.<BR/><BR/>bapticus hereticus: That one has an abortion does not make one pro-abortion, which would be, I think you would agree, quite troubling for those pro-life bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-65249185580002579622009-02-12T09:56:00.000-06:002009-02-12T09:56:00.000-06:00Wally,Great story. Totally unrelated to this post....Wally,<BR/><BR/>Great story. Totally unrelated to this post. That makes it, technically, comment spam. And therefore I have deleted it. My suggestions to you? Here are two options off the top of my head:<BR/><BR/>1. I did post something a couple of weeks ago about the 100-0 girls basketball game. Your comment would be more relevant on that older post. Feel free to look it up and put it there.<BR/Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-68230008675331014262009-02-12T09:52:00.000-06:002009-02-12T09:52:00.000-06:00Bapticus Hereticus."Pro-choice" does not accuratel...Bapticus Hereticus.<BR/><BR/>"Pro-choice" does not accurately describe the position. I'm in favor of a woman having every choice available to her one hour before her baby is born that President Obama is in favor of her having one hour after her baby is born.<BR/><BR/>Thus, we are all in favor of women having choices, and we are all in favor of those choices being limited by law. The question is Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11202730290906882482009-02-12T09:48:00.000-06:002009-02-12T09:48:00.000-06:00kydo97,Although the Bible does describe people doi...kydo97,<BR/><BR/>Although the Bible does describe people doing something sort of like apologizing on behalf of their ancestors (but only in conjunction with apologizing for their own participation in the same actions. . . see Nehemiah 9, for example), the Bible telling us that people did something is not always the same as the Bible telling us that we should do something.<BR/><BR/>How to relate Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-35860939549542820952009-02-12T09:27:00.000-06:002009-02-12T09:27:00.000-06:00I agree with CB that grace is a wonderful thing. B...I agree with CB that grace is a wonderful thing. But such does not appear to be evident in the following words:<BR/><BR/><EM>... substantive differences separate … pro-life people and pro-abortion people, opponents of the family (feminists, homosexual activists, etc.) and defenders of the family ....</EM><BR/><BR/>Pro-choice accurately defines the position, whereas pro-abortion is evaluative. bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313104957715780200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-2132100351110228312009-02-11T23:11:00.000-06:002009-02-11T23:11:00.000-06:00Ok, Bart, what do you think about people who apolo...Ok, Bart, what do you think about people who apologize about things their ancestors did to someone else's ancestors? I can't help it that my ancestors may or may not have sinned or transgressed against another's ancestors. At what point must one start being accountable for their own actions, their own situations, and not blame what happened generations ago for their current situation?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898871548098144828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21019380625818803822009-02-11T21:41:00.000-06:002009-02-11T21:41:00.000-06:00B.Diddy,Have you had an opportunity to talk to con...B.Diddy,<BR/><BR/>Have you had an opportunity to talk to congressman Lewis about this matter. If so, can you share any more than we have already heard without breaking a confidence?<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-47459799368011328472009-02-11T18:23:00.000-06:002009-02-11T18:23:00.000-06:00Thanks for sharing.I agree that racial reconciliat...Thanks for sharing.<BR/><BR/>I agree that racial reconciliation often must begin with an apology. However, our attempt at reconciliation must not end with that apology. As The Congressman taught me during my time with him, to have true community we must develop right relationships with folks who don't look like us. <BR/><BR/>Sometimes that's a tough task. But we must try.Big Daddy Weavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-90534926548268337592009-02-11T17:42:00.000-06:002009-02-11T17:42:00.000-06:00Tom and all,Sometimes it is just good to enjoy the...Tom and all,<BR/><BR/>Sometimes it is just good to enjoy the wonder of God's glorious grace without thoughts or questions about anything else; would you not all agree?<BR/><BR/>It is my opinion this may be one of those moments we could all just do that. I am sure we will have propositions abounding to debate later. <BR/><BR/>So let's just take this good thing for what it is.<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-82725719634546745642009-02-11T16:31:00.000-06:002009-02-11T16:31:00.000-06:00Tom,A great question. Good things, I'm sure.Tom,<BR/><BR/>A great question. Good things, I'm sure.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.com