tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post5018877774313227026..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Resolution On the Role of the BF&MBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-28069793274885690522007-06-01T19:18:00.000-05:002007-06-01T19:18:00.000-05:00Could it be that some baptists believe in transubs...Could it be that some baptists believe in transubstanciation? Ben Cole, want to weigh in on that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-16933736328674981142007-06-01T18:54:00.000-05:002007-06-01T18:54:00.000-05:00From anon #1,Just because SBC institutions do it n...From anon #1,<BR/><BR/>Just because SBC institutions do it now, doesn't make it right and doesn't make it proper to affirm with a resolution.<BR/><BR/>dWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-30801556943649760552007-06-01T13:41:00.000-05:002007-06-01T13:41:00.000-05:00Bart, Count me among the puerile on this one!Camer...Bart, <BR/><BR/>Count me among the puerile on this one!<BR/><BR/>Cameroncameron coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520766030266689614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-24077074327296071262007-06-01T13:23:00.000-05:002007-06-01T13:23:00.000-05:00Bart, I guess we'll have competing resolutions on ...Bart, <BR/><BR/>I guess we'll have competing resolutions on the <A HREF="http://lesliepuryear.blogspot.com/2007/04/resolution-for-san-antonio.html" REL="nofollow">role of BFM2K</A>. :)<BR/><BR/>Actually I agree with most of your resolution with the exception of the "minimum" language in the first "Resolved" and the entirety of the second "Resolved". Other than that, it's pretty good. :)<BR/><BR/>Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-86977304279542598332007-06-01T12:17:00.000-05:002007-06-01T12:17:00.000-05:00Now Joe, that was pretty funny!Now Joe, that was pretty funny!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-31211698474185205032007-06-01T09:26:00.000-05:002007-06-01T09:26:00.000-05:00Perhaps Francis Beckwith could chime in.Perhaps Francis Beckwith could chime in.FBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16827391508042827125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-28151318544466617812007-06-01T09:22:00.000-05:002007-06-01T09:22:00.000-05:00Yes, what is a "real presence" at the Lord's Suppe...Yes, what is a "real presence" at the Lord's Supper?Bro. Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10195833222745366416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-19348727809884658702007-06-01T09:05:00.000-05:002007-06-01T09:05:00.000-05:00We do agree on this: I think that the most importa...We do agree on this: <EM>I think that the most important issue that we face with the longest-lasting implications is the question of the appropriate role of The Baptist Faith & Message in our convention.</EM><BR/><BR/>It will be interesting to see how Ben proposes to amend it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-39915614837760124782007-06-01T09:00:00.000-05:002007-06-01T09:00:00.000-05:00ben,exactly what do you mean by a "real presence" ...ben,<BR/><BR/>exactly what do you mean by a "real presence" at the Lord's supper table? would you, or bart, please explain that to me. thanks.<BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-56536263968172677722007-06-01T08:51:00.000-05:002007-06-01T08:51:00.000-05:00Anonymous #2:We, the childish and puerile, hear yo...Anonymous #2:<BR/><BR/>We, the childish and puerile, hear your assertion and accord to it all of the respect conveyed to it by your reputation.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58026705923315007532007-06-01T08:50:00.000-05:002007-06-01T08:50:00.000-05:00Anonymous #1:Employees at SBC institutions already...Anonymous #1:<BR/><BR/>Employees at SBC institutions already affirm the BF&M as a condition of employment. I've done so about a half-dozen times already just for odds-and-ends adjunct positions. My resolution merely affirms what is already the case with our institutional employees.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-46692316325797610672007-06-01T08:42:00.000-05:002007-06-01T08:42:00.000-05:00Mr. Bart,Would you make the same declaration regar...Mr. Bart,<BR/><BR/>Would you make the same declaration regarding 'The Abstract of Faith,' the institutional doctrinal standard for both Southern and Southeastern Seminaries?<BR/><BR/>Do you realize that your very shortsighted view would, if adopted by SBC'rs in conventions past, would have demanded the forced removal and termination of every trustee (including Paige Patterson and Paul Pressler onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-64371947002123177742007-06-01T08:08:00.000-05:002007-06-01T08:08:00.000-05:00If those who work at SBC institutions can never vo...If those who work at SBC institutions can never voice disagreement over any part of the BF&M, then what happens if Southern Baptists decide something in the BF&M is wrong? (Of course, that could NEVER happen, right?) Those employees would be unable to participate in the re-writing of our statement of faith.<BR/><BR/>I agree we need some level of accountability, but I don't think this is the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-4148383588613191612007-06-01T07:43:00.001-05:002007-06-01T07:43:00.001-05:00Dougald,Lord willing, we will get our opportunity ...Dougald,<BR/><BR/>Lord willing, we will get our opportunity to meet someday.<BR/><BR/>As for Bro. Judson, I'm certainly proud of him!Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58093698515015863132007-06-01T07:43:00.000-05:002007-06-01T07:43:00.000-05:00Jack,I took your second comment as a request to re...Jack,<BR/><BR/>I took your second comment as a request to remove the first one. If I erred and you want them back up, just let me know and I will restore them forthwith.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-30362807605447001812007-06-01T07:40:00.000-05:002007-06-01T07:40:00.000-05:00Bart,I'm sure Adoniram Judson would be proud of yo...Bart,<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Adoniram Judson would be proud of you! Though his situation was a little different in that his views on baptism changed, thus leading him to resign.<BR/><BR/>DWMIII<BR/><BR/>PS- It is too bad I won't be in San Antone, I would have liked to get a chance to meet you. But alas, I'll be in Central Asia for a little while.dwm IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789864109455705598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-16962258171012671042007-06-01T05:30:00.000-05:002007-06-01T05:30:00.000-05:00Ben & Micah,My opinion of the confessional account...Ben & Micah,<BR/><BR/>My opinion of the confessional accountability of employees is best illustrated by my own actions (see <A HREF="http://praisegodbarebones.blogspot.com/2007/03/denied-employment.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>). I believe it displays a lack of integrity for a person to feign agreement with an institutional statement of faith in order to obtain or keep a job or appointment Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-89029311866066165062007-06-01T00:42:00.000-05:002007-06-01T00:42:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jack Maddoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15103122833733271927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-89615161961171447182007-06-01T00:38:00.000-05:002007-06-01T00:38:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jack Maddoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15103122833733271927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-90485906024175135022007-05-31T23:57:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:57:00.000-05:00Bart:I have a serious question...all jokes aside.T...Bart:<BR/><BR/>I have a serious question...all jokes aside.<BR/><BR/>The BFM2000 says concerning the Lord's Supper:<BR/><BR/>"The Lord's Supper is a <EM><STRONG>symbolic act</EM></STRONG> of obedience whereby members of the church, through partaking of the bread and the fruit of the vine, memorialize the death of the Redeemer and anticipate His second coming."<BR/><BR/>Do you think that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-89375500087768421482007-05-31T23:46:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:46:00.000-05:00I should explain that I am thinking specifically o...I should explain that I am thinking specifically of missionaries who have previously been allowed to sign the BF&M with caveats but who choose to remain publicly quiet with their disagreement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-71077546670121785182007-05-31T23:44:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:44:00.000-05:00Bart-In all seriousness, in regards to your statem...Bart-<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, in regards to your statement about public disagreement, where would you come down in regards to someone who disagrees with the BF&M but who chooses not to go public with said disagreement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1190322525399820342007-05-31T23:38:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:38:00.000-05:00Bart,I look forward to canceling Jeremy Greens vot...Bart,<BR/><BR/>I look forward to canceling Jeremy Greens vote and getting a few friends to cancel out the votes of the others as well. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-56618911062505280122007-05-31T23:29:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:29:00.000-05:00bart,my ballot will fly high on this resolution. ...bart,<BR/><BR/>my ballot will fly high on this resolution. <BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-77633082024587892042007-05-31T23:24:00.000-05:002007-05-31T23:24:00.000-05:00Bart,Right on!ClydeBart,<BR/><BR/>Right on!<BR/><BR/>ClydeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com