tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post5256114400562908967..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Comfortable, but Not Very HelpfulBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-76437658181176995682010-02-23T15:25:18.259-06:002010-02-23T15:25:18.259-06:00bapticus hereticus: [...] you, David, and CB can c...<i>bapticus hereticus: [...] you, David, and CB can continue treating a brother in Christ [....] <br /><br />Joe: Kind of hard to be a brother in Christ when you don't believe the gospel[.]</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: God's blessings to you, Joe.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58381584848188029872010-02-23T15:14:33.143-06:002010-02-23T15:14:33.143-06:00Joe, you make the same mistake as Bart did toward ...<i>Joe, you make the same mistake as Bart did toward John.<br /></i> <br /><br />I consider any comparison to Bart to be a compliment of the highest order. Especially since he was dead on in his analysis of Elton John.<br /><br /><i>you, David, and CB can continue treating a brother in Christ, </i> <br /><br />Kind of hard to be a brother in Christ when you don't believe the gospelJoe Blackmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609279285784683781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-479547300430564012010-02-23T14:51:00.275-06:002010-02-23T14:51:00.275-06:00bapticus hereticus: … a liberal, by definition and...<i>bapticus hereticus: … a liberal, by definition and essence, deserves not the same or any magnanimity. <br /><br />Joe: Right.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: See item 1) above on sincerity and regard.<br /><br /><i>bapticus hereticus: I have professed Christ on this blog to assuage your concerns. It has been repeatedly rejected. <br /><br />Joe: … you make claims that are contrary to … bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-49055561689916254812010-02-23T14:46:33.278-06:002010-02-23T14:46:33.278-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-30661043586040139622010-02-23T13:50:52.650-06:002010-02-23T13:50:52.650-06:00Concerning 1: You will give the benefit of the dou...<i>Concerning 1: You will give the benefit of the doubt to another conservative, but a liberal, by definition and essence, deserves not the same or any magnanimity.</i> <br /><br />Right. So what's your point? What part of "...rebuke them sharply" (Titus 1:13) do you not get?<br /><br /><i>Concerning 2. I have professed Christ on this blog to assuage your concerns. It has been Joe Blackmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609279285784683781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-46557588108180756722010-02-23T09:35:05.228-06:002010-02-23T09:35:05.228-06:00CB: Beloved Heretic,
bapticus hereticus: CB, yet ...<i>CB: Beloved Heretic,</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: CB, yet again, apparently wishing to demonstrate he is loving and caring toward me, and yet, again, he cannot find it within himself to refer to myself in the manner that I prefer (i.e., bapticus hereticus), the manner to which I requested from him on numerous occasions. See post to Joe for items 1), 2), and 3). <br /><br /><i>CB: What isbapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1113838501734975752010-02-23T09:32:47.213-06:002010-02-23T09:32:47.213-06:00Joe: If you can claim "Jesus is Lord" bu...<i>Joe: If you can claim "Jesus is Lord" but also claim that being an open, practicing homosexual does not prove that a person is NOT saved then your profession is just words--it is not connected to real, saving faith because you do not understand the gospel.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: To you, given your reading of scripture, homosexuality is a sin, and I assume other things, bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-66318633965517163472010-02-23T07:30:03.578-06:002010-02-23T07:30:03.578-06:00Beloved Heretic,
You are right in saying, "A...Beloved Heretic,<br /><br />You are right in saying, "Actually, Joe, what you, David, CB, and Bart think of my relationship to God has no bearing on it...."<br /><br />What we think is really not important. <br /><br />What is important is the fact that you do not have a valid, soul saving relationship with Christ. The consequences of this great gulf between you and Christ is CB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21478275919475298372010-02-23T06:27:22.339-06:002010-02-23T06:27:22.339-06:00Bart,
I am so impressed with you! Your researc...Bart,<br /> I am so impressed with you! Your research and analysis is great. I will be a regular reader. I will also pray that God will continue to use you for his glory.<br /><br />Dan Wooldridge<br />Georgetown, TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-57163610962855289472010-02-22T20:25:05.872-06:002010-02-22T20:25:05.872-06:00If you can claim "Jesus is Lord" but als...If you can claim "Jesus is Lord" but also claim that being an open, practicing homosexual does not prove that a person is NOT saved then your profession is just words--it is not connected to real, saving faith because you do not understand the gospel.<br /><br />If you're looking for a kinder, gentler response you might try not telling people that they are just narrow minded and Joe Blackmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609279285784683781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-71284447981409652332010-02-22T19:38:04.744-06:002010-02-22T19:38:04.744-06:00Joe: ... Now, you don't like it when CB and Da...<i>Joe: ... Now, you don't like it when CB and David tell you that you're going to hell without repenting of your sins and trust Christ alone for your salvation then that is a YOU problem not a ME problem.</i><br /><br />Actually, Joe, what you, David, CB, and Bart think of my relationship to God has no bearing on it, and given my previous profession of ‘Jesus as Lord’ on this blog has bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-85402529192830714062010-02-22T18:51:36.322-06:002010-02-22T18:51:36.322-06:00BH
Sorry but not everybody is a Wade Burleson who...BH<br /><br />Sorry but not everybody is a Wade Burleson who is going to tell you that you can believe whatever you want and if you're sincere God HAS to accept you because "faith trumps belief". Not everybody is a Rick Warren who is going to tell you "It's not about you" and spend an entire 300+ pages telling you about YOUR purpose. Not everyone is a Joel Osteen whoJoe Blackmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609279285784683781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11230237336718416612010-02-22T17:49:29.026-06:002010-02-22T17:49:29.026-06:00Steve: BH.. what?
bapticus hereticus: Steve, woul...<i>Steve: BH.. what?</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: Steve, would you prefer a physician with such a bedside manner and attitude toward people?bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-34114931363026805992010-02-22T16:03:12.500-06:002010-02-22T16:03:12.500-06:00BH.. what?BH.. what?Groseys messageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09256060632754175527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-76354255886047835262010-02-22T13:27:43.812-06:002010-02-22T13:27:43.812-06:00David: I'm being very gracious to you, BH. I&#...<i>David: I'm being very gracious to you, BH. I'm telling you the truth. If I've got cancer, then I'd want a Dr. that would tell me that I had cancer. I sure wouldnt want a Dr. that would tell me to take some tylenol and not worry about it; it's just a headache.</i><br /><br />Doctor: “You have cancer. And you don’t know anything about cancer or cancer treatments; in fact, youbapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-18571155736901765642010-02-22T12:43:21.796-06:002010-02-22T12:43:21.796-06:00I'm being very gracious to you, BH. I'm t...I'm being very gracious to you, BH. I'm telling you the truth. If I've got cancer, then I'd want a Dr. that would tell me that I had cancer. I sure wouldnt want a Dr. that would tell me to take some tylenol and not worry about it; it's just a headache.<br /><br />CB and I are telling you the truth. We're telling you what you need to hear...for the good of your soul andvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-37896447084244820392010-02-22T12:28:49.363-06:002010-02-22T12:28:49.363-06:00David: Methinks that CB is right about BH. BH does...<i>David: Methinks that CB is right about BH. BH does not understand grace at all, and he has no idea what salvation really is. Thus, BH, you are on your way to Hell, unless you repent and put your faith in Jesus as your LORD and Savior.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: Would that be the same LORD and Savior that inspires you to be so gracious to me?bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1262199278915442612010-02-22T12:25:37.062-06:002010-02-22T12:25:37.062-06:00Bart: No, BH, you didn't conclude that I was n...<i>Bart: No, BH, you didn't conclude that I was not a Christian. Rather, you concluded that I was being critical of Elton John for his being self-absorbed and not being a Christian.<br /><br />You were correct in that judgment against me, even though you had not spoken with me at all about it, because I had made public statements to that effect. I had clearly stated that he was self-absorbed.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-82604797830640676322010-02-22T12:12:44.270-06:002010-02-22T12:12:44.270-06:00Methinks that CB is right about BH. BH does not un...Methinks that CB is right about BH. BH does not understand grace at all, and he has no idea what salvation really is. Thus, BH, you are on your way to Hell, unless you repent and put your faith in Jesus as your LORD and Savior.<br /><br />John King, do you believe that a practicing homosexual, who has not repented of his homosexuality, can be saved? Do you believe that nice people, who give volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-28319366213664791082010-02-22T11:53:51.712-06:002010-02-22T11:53:51.712-06:00No, BH, you didn't conclude that I was not a C...No, BH, you didn't conclude that I was not a Christian. Rather, you concluded that I was being critical of Elton John for his being self-absorbed and not being a Christian.<br /><br />You were correct in that judgment against me, even though you had not spoken with me at all about it, because I had made public statements to that effect. I had clearly stated that he was self-absorbed. I had Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-60089709479440491542010-02-22T11:41:21.101-06:002010-02-22T11:41:21.101-06:00Bart: Well, BH, you've made judgments about me...<i>Bart: Well, BH, you've made judgments about me without having spoken with me at all. Why? Because I made public statements, that's why. And the nature of my public statements was plain. The implications of them were clear. The same is true with regard to Elton John.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: Have I ever stated that you were not a Christian, Bart, or did not have a relationshipbapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-78693519887038640682010-02-22T11:39:09.314-06:002010-02-22T11:39:09.314-06:00CB: He references ... Mark 3:22... What he neglect...<i>CB: He references ... Mark 3:22... What he neglects ... is the passage below beginning in Mark 3:23.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: Bart et al. pronounce judgment on one they, apparently, do not personally know. bapticus hereticus advocates for humility, especially in the absence of personal knowledge. Bart et al. praised. bapticus hereticus condemned for not being a Christian or at least bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-66537813660025957492010-02-22T11:18:54.481-06:002010-02-22T11:18:54.481-06:00Well, BH, you've made judgments about me witho...Well, BH, you've made judgments about me without having spoken with me at all. Why? Because I made public statements, that's why. And the nature of my public statements was plain. The implications of them were clear.<br /><br />The same is true with regard to Elton John.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-91768084886824084622010-02-22T11:12:19.577-06:002010-02-22T11:12:19.577-06:00Joe: ... His actions and words prove that, BH. No ...<i>Joe: ... His actions and words prove that, BH. No one has to talk to him about it.</i><br /><br />bapticus hereticus: yeah, why bother having a conversation before passing judgment. It simply isn't sufficiently efficient.bapticus hereticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526321800594075557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-7274197337064848992010-02-22T11:04:01.532-06:002010-02-22T11:04:01.532-06:00The effect of this seemingly charitable ambiguity ...The effect of this seemingly charitable ambiguity toward Elton John and the remainder of the world is to delight in uncertainty as to whether people will spend eternity in Heaven or in Hell. To do so is to grant people no favor worth granting, especially when the Bible speaks so plainly on the matter.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.com