tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post8051470170039506252..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: A Tale of Two CitiesBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-56266288900458697472007-03-30T09:35:00.000-05:002007-03-30T09:35:00.000-05:00Folks,You need to know that somebody else is posti...Folks,<BR/><BR/>You need to know that somebody else is posting as "sbc pastor." Some of these posts are from Jeremy Green. Some are not. I'm shutting down this comment thread.<BR/><BR/>Am I going to have to install SiteMeter or something similar to track down despicable folks who are too cowardly to take responsibility for their own thoughts and actions?Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-5446552453255819092007-03-30T09:18:00.000-05:002007-03-30T09:18:00.000-05:00I am ashamed to even be associated with Southern B...I am ashamed to even be associated with Southern Baptists because of people like sbc pastor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-66166921740577892492007-03-30T04:03:00.000-05:002007-03-30T04:03:00.000-05:00Dear Jeremy, Maybe I'm the Todd you referred to ea...Dear Jeremy, <BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm the Todd you referred to earlier -- the one who "often attempts to justify the unscriptural, Neo-Pentecostal/Charismatic practice of 'private prayer language'." (You can check my blog or Jerry Corbaley's for confirmation, if you'd like.)<BR/><BR/>If I'm the one, I'm happy to see that you've read my comments, but I'm disappointed that I failed to persuade you that Todd Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18131930025633807723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12679991880951601462007-03-30T00:11:00.000-05:002007-03-30T00:11:00.000-05:00Todd,Thanks for reading one of the posts that I me...Todd,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for reading one of the posts that I mentioned: “What is a Theological Moderate within the Context of the SBC?” However, it appears that you may have missed the fact that Burleson does indeed accommodate the liberal position by stating that it is unnecessary to affirm the inerrancy of the Bible in order to be a theological conservative. Thus, it is rather clear that he is aJeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-88420768173096811042007-03-29T23:38:00.000-05:002007-03-29T23:38:00.000-05:00man...I can't even spell the SBC's official breakf...man...I can't even spell the SBC's official breakfast right..<BR/><BR/>I am ashamed....<BR/><BR/>JackJack Maddoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15103122833733271927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21816468925678029342007-03-29T23:05:00.000-05:002007-03-29T23:05:00.000-05:00jack...jack....jack,its not crispy creme....its kr...jack...jack....jack,<BR/><BR/><BR/>its not crispy creme....its krispy kreme. please dont misspell my favorite donuts.<BR/><BR/>david<BR/><BR/>ps. for krispy kremes and coffee i will drive from tn.volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-73622699040625761282007-03-29T22:27:00.000-05:002007-03-29T22:27:00.000-05:00Jeremy and WadeYou guys are a riot...and I meant t...Jeremy and Wade<BR/><BR/>You guys are a riot...and I meant that in a good way! I love you both and I certainly find myself in agreement with Jeremy when it comes to SBC polity and the situation before us...but both of you sound like the proverbial 10 year old fuss'en with his friend in the school yard<BR/><BR/>"My dad can beat up your dad"<BR/>"No he can't"<BR/>"Yes he can"<BR/>"no he can't yes Jack Maddoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15103122833733271927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-44644561451149939772007-03-29T18:34:00.000-05:002007-03-29T18:34:00.000-05:00OK...folks...no surreptitious pseudo-posting allow...OK...folks...no surreptitious pseudo-posting allowed here. Absolutely none. I will not tolerate it.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-22944349531447496462007-03-29T17:44:00.000-05:002007-03-29T17:44:00.000-05:00Bart,The last comment was not made by me. Somehow ...Bart,<BR/><BR/>The last comment was not made by me. Somehow someone commented with under "SBC Pastor." Could you please remove the comment? Thanks and God bless!!!<BR/><BR/>In Christ,<BR/>JLGJeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-49677703343353760992007-03-29T17:42:00.000-05:002007-03-29T17:42:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-42157136799033758362007-03-29T16:57:00.000-05:002007-03-29T16:57:00.000-05:00OK, good point. On that post, you wrote:"That said...OK, good point. On that post, you wrote:<BR/><BR/>"That said, I’d define a liberal Southern Baptist as a person who does not believe in the veracity, the exactitude, the integrity, the infallibility and inerrancy of the Scripture. Even if he believed that the Word was inspired in its purpose but not in its entirety, he may be right of the center in regard to Christendom but left of the center Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-77067094034583944592007-03-29T15:45:00.000-05:002007-03-29T15:45:00.000-05:00Todd, were you looking for this?http://sbcpastor.b...Todd, were you looking for this?<BR/><BR/>http://sbcpastor.blogspot.com/2006/12/more-mctrouble-trustee-temper-tantrums.html<BR/><BR/>I guess disrespect is in the eye of the beholder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-9509921594665557072007-03-29T15:27:00.000-05:002007-03-29T15:27:00.000-05:00Todd,Thanks for your clarification. However, I wo...Todd,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your clarification. However, I would like to correct you on one point. I have not used any “broad brush labels in describing another.” I would point you to my posts entitled, “What Is a Theological Moderate within the Context of the SBC” and “An Interesting Comparison: Burleson and the CBF.” In those two posts, I define the doctrinal descriptive of a “theological Jeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-31964083881482980142007-03-29T13:20:00.000-05:002007-03-29T13:20:00.000-05:00To try to clarify my point to myself and others, I...To try to clarify my point to myself and others, I do think it is disparaging to use broad brush labels in describing another. It is little more than sophisticated name calling. Labels like fundamentalist or liberal or moderate or neo-pentecostal and the like are most often used not to define one's position but to dismiss and belittle another. The tone of my previous post was guilty of some of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-88811671697182817542007-03-29T12:44:00.000-05:002007-03-29T12:44:00.000-05:00Todd,Thank you for defining what the word “dispara...Todd,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for defining what the word “disparage” means. Thus, you will find it rather easy to see that I have not done disparaged anyone, but rather have confronted and addressed the moderate theological beliefs of Burleson. On the contrary, he clearly has disparaged his fellow trustees. If you would have read the previous comments, you would see that I have already quoted Jeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-80425987746461801832007-03-29T12:20:00.000-05:002007-03-29T12:20:00.000-05:00JLG,To disparage is to "to depreciate by indirect ...JLG,<BR/><BR/>To disparage is to "to depreciate by indirect means, to speak slightingly about." That describes the tone of your posts on your blog. You accuse him of trying to "utterly wreak havoc in our convention" and "accomodating liberalism" and his "belief in the equal validity of various theological viewpoints at the expense of absolute truth." <BR/><BR/>You have accused him of speaking Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-27151327310499737952007-03-29T12:02:00.000-05:002007-03-29T12:02:00.000-05:00Todd,I have never disparaged anyone on my blog, pe...Todd,<BR/><BR/>I have never disparaged anyone on my blog, period. You are either mistaken or are purposely trying to malign me by insinuating otherwise. It’s not name calling to point out that Burleson's theological beliefs are clearly moderate. I employ the word "moderate" as a doctrinal descriptive of his theological beliefs only, certainly not as a pejorative term. If you are to be honest,Jeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-5808178632585653152007-03-29T10:29:00.000-05:002007-03-29T10:29:00.000-05:00JLG,Your criticism of Wade for disparaging other l...JLG,<BR/><BR/>Your criticism of Wade for disparaging other leaders within SBC life rings quite hollow considering that you do the same on your blog, a litany of name calling and accusations. I am sure in your case you see it as "standing for the truth," but that is Wade's role as a trustee too. Just because you disagree with another does not mean you are disparaging them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-85240036728640157442007-03-29T09:19:00.000-05:002007-03-29T09:19:00.000-05:00Paul,Au contraire, I am offering one circumstance ...Paul,<BR/><BR/><I>Au contraire</I>, I am offering one circumstance as a hope for what could happen in the other. To suggest that there are differences between the two circumstances is not the same as asserting them as diametrically opposite. I am asserting that there is opportunity for the two circumstances to be the same.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-76039882489776089772007-03-28T22:54:00.000-05:002007-03-28T22:54:00.000-05:00Honestly, I hardly see the difference in the two. ...Honestly, I hardly see the difference in the two. There has been no apology from either side in the matter regarding the IMB board and there has been no apology from either side in the matter regarding the SWBTS board. Someone, somewhere, in both cases, has been in the wrong. It appears, in both cases, that the offended party, whichever it may have been, has turned the other cheek. Neither Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-32550688127056876762007-03-28T22:09:00.000-05:002007-03-28T22:09:00.000-05:00Mr. Burleson,The fact that you continue to deny th...Mr. Burleson,<BR/><BR/>The fact that you continue to deny that you have disparaged your fellow trustees is dishonest at best. Also, please allow me to remind you that as a trustee of an SBC entity you are indeed accountable to Southern Baptists, of which I am one… whether you like it or not :0). Sorry, but theological conservatives (such as me) will hold all trustees, including theological Jeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-88361044650947536862007-03-28T21:47:00.000-05:002007-03-28T21:47:00.000-05:00Mr. Green, No IMB trustee has been disparaged. Tho...Mr. Green, <BR/><BR/>No IMB trustee has been disparaged. Those who attempted to surreptitiously remove Dr. Rankin have been foiled. Frankly, the board has changed drastically in the last eighteen months. It is a very enjoyable place to be.<BR/><BR/>In the spirit of the SWBTS trustee leadership, I say it is time to move forward and put everything behind us. I am quite comfortable in my wadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-16904836910117016222007-03-28T21:46:00.000-05:002007-03-28T21:46:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.wadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-18348291768403441542007-03-28T19:27:00.000-05:002007-03-28T19:27:00.000-05:00Mr. Burleson,I agree wholeheartedly and am thankfu...Mr. Burleson,<BR/><BR/>I agree wholeheartedly and am thankful that you acknowledge such. That was precisely my point: you disparaged your fellow trustees and have yet to admit any fault whatsoever in doing so. I truly hate to see such godly men, as the trustees that you have disparaged, treated in such an unloving and ungodly manner. By the grace of God I will continue to speak out when anyoneJeremy Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10905768244404899040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-70840234744891772332007-03-28T19:00:00.000-05:002007-03-28T19:00:00.000-05:00Mr. Green,It is incumbent upon all Christians to s...Mr. Green,<BR/><BR/>It is incumbent upon all Christians to speak the truth, especially pastors.<BR/><BR/>In His Grace,<BR/><BR/>wadewadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.com