tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post2820196259657617876..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: David Dockery Supports "Narrowing of Parameters"Bart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-59178808220924441122007-09-24T22:33:00.000-05:002007-09-24T22:33:00.000-05:00Bart - Have you read the intro of "The Baptist Fai...Bart - <BR/><BR/>Have you read the intro of "The Baptist Faith and Message" study guide by Herschel Hobbs, especially page 12? He states, ". . . Baptists have their differences. . . .So long as these differences do not deny the authority of the Scriptures or the Lordship of Jesus Christ, they should be resolved in Christian love." <BR/><BR/>Is Hobbs too generous in his latitude? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-42707118598852264672007-09-24T21:24:00.000-05:002007-09-24T21:24:00.000-05:00Sean: It's easy to label that which you do not agr...Sean: It's easy to label that which you do not agree with as emotionalism. I label it as fact. I do have a brain. Believe it or not. Yep, even we females can think all on our own. We taught and raised children such as yourselves didn't we?<BR/><BR/>Tim: I draw the line at liberalism. Denial that the Bible is true, denial that Christ is all that he says he is etc. Other things are going to be Debbie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-32049506664929339562007-09-24T19:58:00.000-05:002007-09-24T19:58:00.000-05:00So Debbie,Where should the line be drawn in the SB...So Debbie,<BR/>Where should the line be drawn in the SBC specifically. No generalities please, specifics. I am hearing this argument you make but have yet to read specifics. Could you please try. Also, why is it lately that you find it so easy to put people down and label them and call them names by making accussations about their intent etc? Is this not what you decried a few months back?Tim Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10885623376514366024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12408358436568106932007-09-24T19:21:00.000-05:002007-09-24T19:21:00.000-05:00Bob,Your second comment/argument is really no argu...Bob,<BR/><BR/>Your second comment/argument is really no argument at all. I would almost bet the farm that you are a proponent of defined parameters for cooperation. Your gripe is that you just don't agree with the parameters as they are now being implemented. No matter where the lines are drawn there will always be some crying "foul" because they fall outside the lines. The fact is it would Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-34709651488900913072007-09-24T17:55:00.000-05:002007-09-24T17:55:00.000-05:00Bart: Tell it to the missionary candidates who've ...Bart: Tell it to the missionary candidates who've been rejected, and to the missionaries who were edged out by said narrowing. Maybe they'll buy it, but I don't.<BR/><BR/>The ex-missionary with whom I've had several meals over the past year should never have had to leave the IMB; especially as a result of an effort to solve problems that didn't exist.Bob Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-22101520000779462442007-09-24T17:17:00.000-05:002007-09-24T17:17:00.000-05:00Bart: I agree with David Dockery's move here and I...Bart: I agree with David Dockery's move here and I would agree with it if this were the problem we are facing in the SBC. It is not however. I think you know that. Putting something like this up and trying to compare the two is an attempt to prove something that does not exist and anyone who has read on these issues for long will clearly see that. Confusing doesn't work Bart. People are brighter Debbie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-49109792356726048742007-09-24T16:47:00.000-05:002007-09-24T16:47:00.000-05:00To all:I agree entirely with following our polity....To all:<BR/><BR/>I agree entirely with following our polity. But polity has not been the only topic of discussion over the past two years. There has been the constant drumbeat accusing people of some nefarious intention to "narrow the parameters of cooperation"—that the "narrowing" itself is "dangerous" or "spooky" regardless of the methodology employed to implement it. There has been the Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-26579611185551474292007-09-24T15:39:00.000-05:002007-09-24T15:39:00.000-05:00that's supposed to read...."i'm getting more impre...that's supposed to read...."i'm getting more impressed with dr. dockery all the time." note to self....typing too fast leads to errors. but, i am getting more impressed with dr. dockery all the time. the job he's done at union u. is amazing.<BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-15504056351577350782007-09-24T12:52:00.000-05:002007-09-24T12:52:00.000-05:00i'm get more impressed with dr. dockery all the ti...i'm get more impressed with dr. dockery all the time. <BR/><BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-1964893983475706312007-09-24T12:47:00.000-05:002007-09-24T12:47:00.000-05:00Nice try, Bart. What the ETS is doing has absolute...Nice try, Bart. What the ETS is doing has absolutely nothing to do with the current controversies in the SBC, which, unless I am wrong, appears to be what you are referring to. If you are honestly not, then I will be happy to withdraw my assumption. The situation in the SBC is that a small group of trustees have de facto ammended the BF&M AFTER we had all agreed to the current version through Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-22982762450709693732007-09-24T11:01:00.000-05:002007-09-24T11:01:00.000-05:00I think this instance of "narrowing the parameters...I think this instance of "narrowing the parameters of cooperation" has much to do with <A HREF="http://rightreason.ektopos.com/archives/2007/05/my_resignation.html" REL="nofollow">THIS</A><BR/><BR/>A big part of the story seems to be that Dockery & Company are bothered that some Catholics can affirm the doctrinal statement of the ETS....Big Daddy Weavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-71935709579813517372007-09-24T09:53:00.000-05:002007-09-24T09:53:00.000-05:00Bob's right. This isn't apples and apples. If a ...Bob's right. This isn't apples and apples. If a sub-group of the ETS decided for the whole group that they were changing the statement then we'd be talking about the same thing. If the ETS changes its doctrinal statement it would be no different than the SBC as a whole modifying/amending the BF&M, which it has now done at least three times. What the IMB has done is to amend it on their own Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-61484626717153732672007-09-24T08:16:00.000-05:002007-09-24T08:16:00.000-05:00I have an idea, then. They could adopt the Baptist...I have an idea, then. They could adopt the Baptist Faith & Message. That would be "narrower" than what they have now.<BR/><BR/>And this is the "mother group", not an associated entity, which wants to do the narrowing.<BR/><BR/>In our case, the SBC itself .. analogous to the ETS .. has said they wanted to stick to the BF&M and not narrow beyond that. That seems a bit different to me, but what do IBob Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.com