tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post4429949831507103231..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Baylor, Baptists, and Bill Clinton's NemesisBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-62735668933541727582010-02-20T16:20:14.282-06:002010-02-20T16:20:14.282-06:00Bart,
Did you see this in the ABP about Starr?
“...Bart,<br /><br />Did you see this in the ABP about Starr?<br /><br />“I accepted the Lord Jesus as my Lord and Savior at the age of 12,” Starr recalled, noting his father baptized him. “I remained in the Churches of Christ tradition through high school.”<br /><br />“But beginning at about the age of 18, I began having questions about certain practices, beginning with instrumental music,” which volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-62449797318594147592010-02-19T20:43:51.085-06:002010-02-19T20:43:51.085-06:00Bart:
Thanks, I agree that this is none of my bus...Bart:<br /><br />Thanks, I agree that this is none of my business, it is between you 2<br />guys.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-14435028333924699102010-02-19T20:00:55.805-06:002010-02-19T20:00:55.805-06:00You're right, Tom. I apologize. I was being ca...You're right, Tom. I apologize. I was being catty.<br /><br />However, discussing my relationship with Wade Burleson is something that Wade and I should be able to do on our own timing and in our own terms.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-81216823441236846262010-02-19T19:39:37.093-06:002010-02-19T19:39:37.093-06:00Bart:
I ask you:"Bart:
You say to Bro. Jim:...Bart:<br /><br />I ask you:"Bart:<br /><br />You say to Bro. Jim:"Yes, Bro. Jim, I recall that phase of our relationship."<br /><br />Are you saying that you have no relationship with Wade B. now and that you do not trust him?"<br /><br />and you say to me:"God bless you, Bro. Tom. If I were to write a 1000-word tract, you could write a 1000-page novel extrapolating all Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12607688307778202592010-02-19T15:50:26.969-06:002010-02-19T15:50:26.969-06:00God bless you, Bro. Tom. If I were to write a 1000...God bless you, Bro. Tom. If I were to write a 1000-word tract, you could write a 1000-page novel extrapolating all that I meant by it.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-8991516634490186292010-02-19T14:20:44.726-06:002010-02-19T14:20:44.726-06:00Bart:
You say to Bro. Jim:"Yes, Bro. Jim, I ...Bart:<br /><br />You say to Bro. Jim:"Yes, Bro. Jim, I recall that phase of our relationship."<br /><br />Are you saying that you have no relationship with Wade B. now and that you do not trust him?Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-32677147233713098772010-02-18T16:52:59.277-06:002010-02-18T16:52:59.277-06:00Yes, Bro. Jim, I recall that phase of our relation...Yes, Bro. Jim, I recall that phase of our relationship.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-33298664825640060232010-02-18T16:48:23.721-06:002010-02-18T16:48:23.721-06:00Bart,
I'll say this for Wade- he will visit wi...Bart,<br />I'll say this for Wade- he will visit with you about your differences. He called me personally and we had a good discussion. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean we shouldn't keep the lines of communication open.<br />Dr. Jim RoebuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21795974932434951702010-02-17T21:02:57.559-06:002010-02-17T21:02:57.559-06:00Wow. like I said, not living in Texas I don't...Wow. like I said, not living in Texas I don't know the details.<br /><br />But somehow your analogy makes sense to me. it is brilliant.<br /><br />LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-41387393421367870062010-02-17T16:23:22.648-06:002010-02-17T16:23:22.648-06:00Upon further reflection, I would characterize the ...Upon further reflection, I would characterize the relationship between Baylor and the BGCT in this manner: They have divorced, but are still living together because they haven't been able to sell the house yet.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-76347480114360243512010-02-17T16:01:19.954-06:002010-02-17T16:01:19.954-06:00Bart:
O.K. Thanks for the clarification.
I stil...Bart:<br /><br />O.K. Thanks for the clarification.<br /><br />I still don't see what makes a school "Baptist" if it's not part of the denomination, but I am sure (based on your response) that there are other indicators or official statements, or someting.<br /><br />As I said, I don't live in Texas, and don't really keep up all that much with Baylor.<br /><br />Thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-42221514005003563422010-02-17T14:17:52.382-06:002010-02-17T14:17:52.382-06:00Louis,
Baylor has not made a pronouncement that t...Louis,<br /><br />Baylor has not made a pronouncement that they are no longer Baptist. Rather, I am analyzing them as no longer Baptist since they have hired two consecutive presidents from outside the Baptist fold and are not governed by any Baptist body. It seems abundantly clear that the regents have envisioned a more-than-Baptist future for the university and are pursuing it.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21266279386456189802010-02-17T11:34:50.836-06:002010-02-17T11:34:50.836-06:00Ken Starr was an excellent Solicitor General and a...Ken Starr was an excellent Solicitor General and an excellent Judge. His legal opinions are very well written. <br /><br />Interestingly, when I was in law school in the early 1980s, Ken Starr was supposedly on the short list for the Supreme Court, but some groups did not think he was conservative enough, and they preferred Bork and Scalia etc.<br /><br />I do not know how Starr has done as a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-23992512286082192202010-02-16T17:09:17.817-06:002010-02-16T17:09:17.817-06:00As a Baylor alum (Class of '91) and Baptist pa...As a Baylor alum (Class of '91) and Baptist pastor, I find myself feeling more comfortable with a Church of Christ member who is conservative than a liberal Baptist leading Baylor. I was pleasantly shocked to hear that someone at Baylor still sought conservative thinking in any form. I've noticed the venomous responses to the Baylor announcement of Starr on Facebook. The liberal tilt, Brother Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13521173211421457582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-10599941769921326332010-02-16T13:13:20.888-06:002010-02-16T13:13:20.888-06:00Don Quixote fighting windmills, and saving them!! ...Don Quixote fighting windmills, and saving them!! <br /><br />David :)volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-2264560887816270462010-02-16T12:50:47.535-06:002010-02-16T12:50:47.535-06:00Sure did not take too long for some more of WB'...Sure did not take too long for some more of WB's "supporters" to show up.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-84698776814877045382010-02-16T12:39:55.780-06:002010-02-16T12:39:55.780-06:00Brother Tom Parker,
Before you accuse Brother Jim...Brother Tom Parker,<br /><br />Before you accuse Brother Jim of something, you need to look at something. He is from Ok, you are from--???. It seems that one who serves in the same state would better prepared to present facts.<br /><br />Blessings,<br />TimTim Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909751217844312917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11133156220147640832010-02-16T12:38:57.146-06:002010-02-16T12:38:57.146-06:00Tom,
If you can stomach it, read his book and his...Tom,<br /><br />If you can stomach it, read his book and his blog. The evidence is typed by his own hand for all the world to see. It is not an accusation that requires much effort and is easily demonstrable to all but the koolaid drinkers. His latest post linking to this OP with mistruth is nothing but corroboration of Bro. Jim's statement.<br /><br />Blessings,<br /><br />Ron P.Ron Phillips, Sr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15891614423106717280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-80350349528837779602010-02-16T12:28:25.596-06:002010-02-16T12:28:25.596-06:00Bart,
Wonderful catch on the church membership iss...Bart,<br />Wonderful catch on the church membership issue. Funny how some will ignore that you actually championed the call for Starr to go where he best fits.<br /><br />How could anyone NOT agree with your statement? Maybe only a person with their own agenda or idealogue.Tim Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10885623376514366024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-48925878309295457292010-02-16T12:03:55.813-06:002010-02-16T12:03:55.813-06:00Bro.Jim:
This is Bro. Tom:
That's a pretty b...Bro.Jim:<br /><br />This is Bro. Tom:<br /><br />That's a pretty big accusation that you make against WB. Could your provide us examples please?<br /><br />Sounds to me that you are calling a fellow Pastor not to be one who deals honestly, that is a very serious charge.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-74136605730173177732010-02-16T11:31:51.140-06:002010-02-16T11:31:51.140-06:00Bart,
If you're waiting on Wade Burleson to be...Bart,<br />If you're waiting on Wade Burleson to be honest and present the facts, you've probably got a long wait coming. If there's one thing that seems NOT to be Wade's strong suit, it's dealing honestly with those whom he disagrees.<br /><br />Dr. Jim Roebuck<br />Pastor<br />First Baptist Church<br />Hooker, OKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-71825583677175087112010-02-16T10:51:30.209-06:002010-02-16T10:51:30.209-06:00I would think for some being called an idealogue w...I would think for some being called an idealogue would be a compliment, it is not like being called the dreaded liberal.Tom Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861689101266081092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-30825851982108234752010-02-16T10:28:02.662-06:002010-02-16T10:28:02.662-06:00Bart,
You are right on in your thinking. Let him ...Bart,<br /><br />You are right on in your thinking. Let him be true to his own faith and not adopt someone else's as sort of an entrance exam.<br /><br />Uh-oh .. Word Verification: UPURGIN<br /><br />Here's hopin' you're not.Bob Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-408585024106671612010-02-16T08:59:57.964-06:002010-02-16T08:59:57.964-06:00I, too, will be looking with interested mind at ho...I, too, will be looking with interested mind at how a conservative, such as Starr seems to be, will fit at Baylor. I would imagine that Big Daddy Weave and some of his liberal friends are not too happy about this hire.<br /><br />On another note, I guess yall are right. Baylor is not a Baptist school anymore, but dont they claim to be? And then, you go and hire a fella to lead your school thatvolfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-52446032083809615712010-02-16T08:00:29.663-06:002010-02-16T08:00:29.663-06:00Last time, I commented about Wade on this blog. H...Last time, I commented about Wade on this blog. He called me and recorded me. He appears to make this mistake often, which has led me to doubt his ability to get the story right. <br /><br />Wade, I'll be in the office today if you think you need to call me. :)<br /><br />IMHO, Starr didn't go far enough!!!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17564978547353834463noreply@blogger.com