tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post4747516475577431391..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Explaining My Wedding Ceremony ContractBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-70395578676513605692013-01-31T14:14:46.639-06:002013-01-31T14:14:46.639-06:00This was a very interesting post. I have been look...This was a very interesting post. I have been looking up information on how to <a href="http://www.themonastery.org/ordination-form" rel="nofollow">get ordained</a> when I came across your article. I have never actually read anything quite like this. I found it interesting actually, thanks so much for your post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11755041481969452357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-69806682275753704832013-01-24T16:58:19.772-06:002013-01-24T16:58:19.772-06:00While I'm grateful for your burden for Godly m...While I'm grateful for your burden for Godly marriages, I don't believe the proposal parallels the 'Christ and the Church' model. <br /><br />Also, wouldn't the debt have to be forgiven in the year of the Jubilee Anniversary? (smiles)<br /><br />I believe the real "teeth" in the contract are ultimately spiritual.<br /><br />Any premarital classes should be strongly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-78356156283917664812013-01-24T14:56:19.106-06:002013-01-24T14:56:19.106-06:00I love this idea and have been looking for a more ...I love this idea and have been looking for a more binding type of contract for when I perform weddings. I would love to see a final copy of the contract.Rusty Keltnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11258443297941503601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12185544051098230772013-01-23T16:23:56.795-06:002013-01-23T16:23:56.795-06:00Bart: You made me mad. I replied in anger. It was ...Bart: You made me mad. I replied in anger. It was pretty evident in my tone. I apologize and ask your forgiveness.<br /><br />Anonymous: I don’t mind the anger, but I do mind one holding me to a different standard than one holds for him- or herself. It is and was granted before you asked. I hold that you would do the same for me.<br /><br />Bart: Marriage is already a matter of law, and should beAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-79734728579553982242013-01-23T14:30:52.344-06:002013-01-23T14:30:52.344-06:00I leave for Senegal in the morning. This might ver...I leave for Senegal in the morning. This might very well be my final comment on the thread. I do apologize for abandoning the conversation. If you are a friend of mine or a friend of the gospel, I do solicit your prayers for our work in Senegal.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-89315118643373271102013-01-23T14:29:51.026-06:002013-01-23T14:29:51.026-06:00Thanks, Tom. I'd be happiest of all if, (1) I ...Thanks, Tom. I'd be happiest of all if, (1) I never collected, and (2) out of the major stir created something far better than this weak and awkward measure were to emerge.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-59826766603725693572013-01-23T14:28:01.605-06:002013-01-23T14:28:01.605-06:00Anonymous,
You made me mad. I replied in anger. I...Anonymous,<br /><br />You made me mad. I replied in anger. It was pretty evident in my tone. I apologize and ask your forgiveness.<br /><br />I do, however, differ with both of your numbered assertions.<br /><br />1. Marriage is already a matter of law, and should be. Spouses and children need the protections of the law. Justice is, wouldn't you agree, an important theme in the Bible (and notBart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-87276153284045042862013-01-23T14:24:10.633-06:002013-01-23T14:24:10.633-06:00Great catch, Tom Shelton. I will make that change....Great catch, Tom Shelton. I will make that change.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-4826667005220666482013-01-23T10:50:34.767-06:002013-01-23T10:50:34.767-06:00I actually like it. I don't utilize such a con...I actually like it. I don't utilize such a contract, but I do require couples to agree to a minimum of 8 counseling sessions, the first 2 of which are largely exploratory. After the 2nd session either they or I am free to withdraw. Over the years I've had couples decide they did not want me to do their weddings and I have also decided that I did not want to do some weddings. One of the Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055905333350570428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-40516285781585803492013-01-23T10:46:03.765-06:002013-01-23T10:46:03.765-06:00I would suggest a change in the language of point ...I would suggest a change in the language of point #6. I suggest you change it from "Forgiveness of Indebtedness" to something that says upon the death of one spouse the payments received constitute the new contract price and the contract is now paid in full. The correct wording should come from a lawyer. The reason for the change is that if this contract proves to be legally Tom Sheltonhttp://www.sanctification.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-87294708632404009622013-01-23T09:23:07.141-06:002013-01-23T09:23:07.141-06:00Bart: You state that I am not in the mainstream, b...Bart: You state that I am not in the mainstream, but am on the fringe. Thank you for noticing. You've paid me the highest compliment that I have received today.<br /><br />Anonymous: I stated that your proposal (i.e., “stuff”) was fringe, not your person. Acknowledging a thesis of Harvey Cox that change often comes from the edge, it is also true that fringe is sometimes just that, that is, itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-81149673479013259692013-01-23T00:18:07.189-06:002013-01-23T00:18:07.189-06:00Hey, its not my job to tell your wife what to do. ...Hey, its not my job to tell your wife what to do. Plus, I may even offer her a guest column. Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637750764381837761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-91781328212043100882013-01-23T00:00:46.136-06:002013-01-23T00:00:46.136-06:00And whatever you do, DO NOT LET MY WIFE COMMENT on...And whatever you do, DO NOT LET MY WIFE COMMENT on the major question of your post.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-13540633411607028752013-01-22T23:57:26.976-06:002013-01-22T23:57:26.976-06:00Wait until Thursday. I'll be in Africa by then...Wait until Thursday. I'll be in Africa by then. ;-)Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11157718488684018072013-01-22T23:41:28.966-06:002013-01-22T23:41:28.966-06:00I'm currently writing an article to post at Vo...I'm currently writing an article to post at Voices tomorrow called, "Has Bart Barber Lost His Mind? You Make the Call." Lots of tepid compliments and soft insults. <br /><br />But I thought the idea was worth discussing. <br /><br />(By the way, the title is real)Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637750764381837761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11517043706107231192013-01-22T23:19:43.970-06:002013-01-22T23:19:43.970-06:00i admit, I've been awaiting Louis's evalua...i admit, I've been awaiting Louis's evaluation. He probably sees some gaping, obvious legal hole and doesn't want to embarrass me publicly.<br /><br />Or, since I post something about as frequently as Joel Osteen reads Augustine, maybe Louis is no longer watching.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12985894014422332442013-01-22T23:15:02.210-06:002013-01-22T23:15:02.210-06:00We need to get Louis' legal opinion on this.We need to get Louis' legal opinion on this. Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637750764381837761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-77989400625026813582013-01-22T22:25:11.328-06:002013-01-22T22:25:11.328-06:00Dear Anonymous,
You wrote: "If you are truly...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />You wrote: "If you are truly serious, and don't intend this as humor…"<br /><br />I reply: I am 100% serious and don't find any humor in this at all.<br /><br />You wrote: "…this is, then, pretty fringe stuff…"<br /><br />I reply: The mainstream is a widely accepted divorce rate that will claim around half of all marriages. The mainstream is Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-20416451206584566632013-01-22T18:06:55.327-06:002013-01-22T18:06:55.327-06:00If you are truly serious, and don't intend thi...If you are truly serious, and don't intend this as humor, this is, then, pretty fringe stuff, and instead of having some influence, you will actually end up having none. Might as well raise your hands and admit defeat. But your Fridays and Saturdays will be free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com