tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post594111829465079715..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: Highview Baptist Church Corrects "Erroneous News Reports"Bart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-43272357239665789532016-08-29T00:51:22.324-05:002016-08-29T00:51:22.324-05:00Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. See...Patience is the best <a href="http://www.ufgop.org/pdf/remedy" rel="nofollow">remedy</a> for every trouble. See the link below for more info. <br /><br />#remedy<br />www.ufgop.org<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720547920308398294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-3381012928922509232008-01-23T15:41:00.000-06:002008-01-23T15:41:00.000-06:00Rob,If I am not mistaken the KBC is one of the few...Rob,<BR/><BR/>If I am not mistaken the KBC is one of the few and may be the only state convention that continues in a power struggle between theological liberals/moderates and conservatives. That may be part of what influenced Highview's decision to bypass state CP giving and going directly to the SBC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-89565229101454914132008-01-08T09:53:00.000-06:002008-01-08T09:53:00.000-06:00Rob,Of all the churches I have ever served, the on...Rob,<BR/><BR/>Of all the churches I have ever served, the one most prone to bypass the CP and do things its own way was the smallest. I would imagine that a WHOLE LOT of our newer (and often smaller) church plants are taking a more creative approach toward their missions funding.<BR/><BR/>But, so are some larger churches. The problem illustrated in Highview's case, IMHO, is the gigantic Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-11081584196777708252008-01-08T09:36:00.000-06:002008-01-08T09:36:00.000-06:00Brother Bart,One would assume that 800,000 dollars...Brother Bart,<BR/><BR/>One would assume that 800,000 dollars in missions giving would be sacrificial. Out of a budget of 6,000,000 that equates to approximately 13.3% in "total missions giving." I would assume that this means CP (through Kentucky, and through the EB) gifts to the LM and AA offerings, community missions, mission fronts, church plants in pioneer areas, etc.) That is respectable Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-58317300166256637042008-01-07T17:27:00.000-06:002008-01-07T17:27:00.000-06:00Rob,The CP percentages from the table would be cor...Rob,<BR/><BR/>The CP percentages from the table would be correct. If I understand Pastor Ezell correctly, those dollars represent the amount of money sent <B>through the Kentucky Baptist Convention</B>. The reason that those figures were so low was because HBC had diverted money straight to the EC. Thus, Highview does support the KBC at some level (which would be the answer to the Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-29147672451005159072008-01-07T16:33:00.000-06:002008-01-07T16:33:00.000-06:00Bart,I would have a couple of questions - and mind...Bart,<BR/><BR/>I would have a couple of questions - and mind you I am not being rabid here, just questions.<BR/><BR/>The church releases a statement about CP giving that reflects "real dollar" amounts. Do these amounts coincide with the reported 3% of undesignated gifts to the Cooperative Program as first reported? If so, are the various reports being really disingenuous, or does it just depend Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-75268643568892955492008-01-07T16:23:00.000-06:002008-01-07T16:23:00.000-06:00Bart,Greetings, my brother, from sunny KC, MO! It...Bart,<BR/><BR/>Greetings, my brother, from sunny KC, MO! It might do your heart well to know that your post is making waves in the MBC.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work and let the truth be known!<BR/><BR/>SOLA GRATIA!Scott Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12557513032999366380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-66262682549846816512008-01-07T14:42:00.000-06:002008-01-07T14:42:00.000-06:00Bart, I can understand the issue with so little of...Bart, <BR/><BR/>I can understand the issue with so little of CP money actually reaching the SBC. <BR/><BR/>LesWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-47133811046115201872008-01-07T13:56:00.000-06:002008-01-07T13:56:00.000-06:00Tim,Isn't it encouraging to see how this church, e...Tim,<BR/><BR/>Isn't it encouraging to see how this church, even while asserting their local church autonomy, has demonstrated a persistent desire to participate in the Cooperative Program, finally discovering a creative solution for doing so.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-49917296523040662652008-01-07T13:52:00.000-06:002008-01-07T13:52:00.000-06:00Les,In the statement their pastor said that they j...Les,<BR/><BR/>In the statement their pastor said that they just didn't like such a high percentage staying within Kentucky. I imagine (MY imaginations here) that they are happier to see their in-state missions money going to a genuinely pioneer area like Indiana, with more of their CP money going national and international. It is not just a wild guess...a look at their church planting priorities Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-6458035080350106592008-01-07T13:46:00.000-06:002008-01-07T13:46:00.000-06:00Brother Bart,Thanks for posting this statement. M...Brother Bart,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting this statement. My heart breaks for Pastor Ezzel and the congregation at Highview. They were placed in this position and their support of the SBC called into question when a simple investigation would have issued truth. Instead they were maligned for nothing more than political expediency. <BR/><BR/>Being from a state that has had CP giving issues, I Tim Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909751217844312917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-19540301294174361342008-01-07T13:45:00.000-06:002008-01-07T13:45:00.000-06:00Bart, Thanks for the update. I still have some que...Bart, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the update. I still have some questions about the LM and AA giving, but I won't direct those to you. <BR/><BR/>Your post did make me curious about something else. Why does Highview not want to support the KY state convention? Are there political issues there they do not support? <BR/><BR/>Just curious. <BR/><BR/>LesWriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.com