tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post6461176201347398893..comments2023-10-19T10:34:33.030-05:00Comments on Praisegod Barebones: On Stones and Glass HousesBart Barberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-37208966628494675942008-01-06T23:58:00.000-06:002008-01-06T23:58:00.000-06:00Hello, Bart. Or is Howdy, or Hey Ya'll more appro...Hello, Bart. Or is Howdy, or Hey Ya'll more appropriate? :D<BR/><BR/>I assumed as much and look forward to what you have to say.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568650603425594448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-10071708500999314092008-01-06T23:56:00.000-06:002008-01-06T23:56:00.000-06:00Ron P.,That's interesting. I would think that I w...Ron P.,<BR/><BR/>That's interesting. I would think that I would be considered one of the "antagonists" to which you refer yet I have openly stated here that I think the CP giving issue is largely irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>BTW, is there something about Dr. Mohler's wife and dog that we need to know about? ;) Nah. I doubt it.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568650603425594448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-29078345959389088052008-01-06T23:54:00.000-06:002008-01-06T23:54:00.000-06:00Tim,I can express my concerns because those concer...Tim,<BR/><BR/>I can express my concerns because those concerns have been consistent. I've never voted for an entity head to serve as President of the SBC. I understand that there is historical precedent. There is also historical precedent in electing American Presidents who were slave owners but that doesn't mean that I either think it is a good idea or one that should be repeated.<BR/><BR/>InPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568650603425594448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-913991737666887452008-01-06T15:43:00.000-06:002008-01-06T15:43:00.000-06:00ron p.,you're probably right....sadly.bart,there y...ron p.,<BR/><BR/>you're probably right....sadly.<BR/><BR/>bart,<BR/><BR/>there you go again...making sense and writing facts mixed with sound reasoning and much truth. how could you do such a thing?<BR/><BR/>from your local, scary, fundie, narrow minded, bigotted, boundary narrowing, member of the he-men women haters club. :)volfan007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-12764788832353337112008-01-06T14:44:00.000-06:002008-01-06T14:44:00.000-06:00Paul,The CP giving of Al Mohler's home church is a...Paul,<BR/><BR/>The CP giving of Al Mohler's home church is a specious issue (IMHO) and one that the antagonists have given a lot of importance to. They have set the tone of their attacks. Therefore, I think Bart is correct in his approach - deal with each attack one by one in a thorough manner. <BR/><BR/>Make no mistake about it, this is all about attacking Dr. Mohler because of his <B>EXCELLENT<Ron Phillips, Sr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15891614423106717280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-68887897538876228012008-01-06T10:38:00.000-06:002008-01-06T10:38:00.000-06:00Howdy, Paul,Indeed, if you hang around this blog l...Howdy, Paul,<BR/><BR/>Indeed, if you hang around this blog long enough, you'll note my style for dealing with things facet by facet over multiple posts.<BR/><BR/>Upside: Each topic gets exhaustive treatment.<BR/><BR/>Downside: Sometimes I get so many threads going that it is hard to bring them all through to completion.<BR/><BR/>I promise to deal with each of Bro. Burleson's objections in time. Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-35010921370613287772008-01-05T23:30:00.000-06:002008-01-05T23:30:00.000-06:00Brother Bart,Thank you for the in depth research. ...Brother Bart,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for the in depth research. Your talent for taking difficult tasks concerning numbers and making them appear simple is overwhelming.<BR/><BR/>I look forward to your upcoming post. <BR/><BR/>Brother Paul,<BR/><BR/>I am not understanding how one can express concern that an entity pres is being nominated especially since the history of the SBC reveals that it has Tim Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909751217844312917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-87693307220389994162008-01-05T23:01:00.000-06:002008-01-05T23:01:00.000-06:00So far only one of Wade's three concerns is being ...So far only one of Wade's three concerns is being addressed and for me it is the weakest of the three since it is the one Al Mohler has the least direct influence on.<BR/><BR/>I certainly commend Dr. Mohler for what he's done for SBTS but I can think of at least a hundred better candidates for President of the SBC than an entity head, be it Dr. Mohler or Dr. Rankin and I really wonder what most Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568650603425594448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-83766768992267105702008-01-05T19:45:00.000-06:002008-01-05T19:45:00.000-06:00Well, it being 8:00 PM on Saturday, in a couple of...Well, it being 8:00 PM on Saturday, in a couple of hours I'm going to have to start trying to figure out what to preach about tomorrow. ;-)<BR/><BR/>I'll catch you all later.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-76695488560925073002008-01-05T19:40:00.000-06:002008-01-05T19:40:00.000-06:00Wade,It being a Saturday, my research is stalled f...Wade,<BR/><BR/>It being a Saturday, my research is stalled for the moment. Yet I anticipate that one of three things will happen...<BR/><BR/>1. Christ will return this weekend, in which case I doubt either you or I will think to ask anyone about such mundane things.<BR/><BR/>2. I will not live to see Monday, in which case I'll see you when you get there.<BR/><BR/>3. I'll be able to answer all of Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-19123973586866703242008-01-05T19:17:00.000-06:002008-01-05T19:17:00.000-06:00Bart, I commend you for your research. A couple of...Bart, I commend you for your research. A couple of questions and I believe you may very well put to rest any concerns I have on this subject...<BR/><BR/>In 2006 and 2007 there were no reported contributions from Highland, Al Mohler's church, to the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering and the Annie Armstrong Easter Offering. In addition, $167,917 (3.3%) was given to the Cooperative Program in 2006 withwadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-85524754738716749762008-01-05T19:07:00.000-06:002008-01-05T19:07:00.000-06:00Wade,I should add that I do not believe that your ...Wade,<BR/><BR/>I should add that I do not believe that your church's record of giving to missions disqualify you either from serving as an IMB trustee or from serving as president of the SBC.<BR/><BR/>And again, kudos on the 97 professions of faith.Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-62825444573716306712008-01-05T18:46:00.000-06:002008-01-05T18:46:00.000-06:00Wade,You have characterized Highview's support of ...Wade,<BR/><BR/>You have characterized Highview's support of SBC missions causes as non-exemplary, you have not only stated but have also emphasized in boldfaced type that Highview gave nothing to LMCO or AAEO (recent investigations suggest that the ACP may technically be in error at that point), and you have done it all to suggest that, because of Highview's giving plan, Al Mohler is not Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-44726115068675970322008-01-05T18:28:00.000-06:002008-01-05T18:28:00.000-06:00Bart,I realize communication is a two way street a...Bart,<BR/><BR/>I realize communication is a two way street and sometimes I do not communicate well. You state in your comment to Brent Williams that I have given <I>'a critique of Highview'</I> regarding her CP giving.<BR/><BR/>I have reviewed my post and I sure can't see where you could interpret I am critiquing the church. Could you point out to me where I have done so because I would like to wadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-52150025481800002712008-01-05T17:41:00.000-06:002008-01-05T17:41:00.000-06:00Bart,How dare you blog an article with supporting ...Bart,<BR/><BR/>How dare you blog an article with supporting facts that contradicts an apocryphal blog of dubious research to the North. :) Seriously, you make excellent points regarding missions giving.<BR/><BR/>This is nothing but an attempt to fabricate an issue to try and keep the SBC from electing Dr. Mohler as President.<BR/><BR/>One other issue, will someone please put forth a motion that Ron Phillips, Sr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15891614423106717280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-61342185066408421412008-01-05T17:33:00.000-06:002008-01-05T17:33:00.000-06:00In light of the comparison you've drawn, I'd say i...In light of the comparison you've drawn, I'd say it's fair game to ask Bro Burleson why a <I>member</I> of a church that gives 3% to the CP is not qualified to serve the SBC as president, but a <I>pastor</I> of a church that gives 5% is qualified to serve as a trustee of the IMB. <BR/><BR/>His criticism is completely indefensible IMHO, and, might I dare even say, hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>Personallycameron coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520766030266689614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-21761054948484474542008-01-05T17:14:00.000-06:002008-01-05T17:14:00.000-06:00Hi, Brent, and thanks for your readership. Thanks ...Hi, Brent, and thanks for your readership. Thanks also for the critique. Good ones of those always strengthen us one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>1. Why Burleson's church? I asked in a post at his blog. He did not object. His church illustrates the fixed-budget-amount approach. His critique of Highview makes his stats fair game. All of these points, considered together, are why I included his Bart Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021102240441576393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5643342666676162215.post-2761189580018995012008-01-05T16:08:00.000-06:002008-01-05T16:08:00.000-06:00Let me start by saying I enjoy your blog and I'm w...Let me start by saying I enjoy your blog and I'm with you on nearly all your stuff. <BR/><BR/>Now for the critique... <BR/><BR/>Why the analysis of Wade Burleson's church? It seems that your post would have just as much validity and everyone would have understood the counterpoint to Wade's post today about Mohler if you had either not used his church as an example or chose a different church. <BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com