Bart: I'll answer for myself. The day you stop speaking of closed communions, the day you stop excluding, the day you apologize to those who have been pushed out, is the day I will believe you. Not before.
Now that you ask, Adlai Stevenson was actually a Unitarian whom Illinois Presbyterians accepted carte blanche for simultaneous membership in their church and the Unitarian Universalist church. Stevenson was, then, a heretic and a Presbyterian!
However, none of this has anything to do with this post. I asked a question at another blog. I simply posted this video while I am awaiting my reply.
One of the great ironies of this whole exchange is that Stevenson was a complete egghead who was usually about as exciting as Warren Christopher. But he certainly shone in this moment.
Truly, it is a great moment for Adlai Stevenson. Mention has already been made of "Thirteen Days." Throughout the movie, I confess that I was waiting for this moment.
Bart,
ReplyDeleteDo you actually think you will get an answer to your question, or like Adlai Stevenson are you prepared to wait?
Blessings,
Ron P.
Bart: I'll answer for myself. The day you stop speaking of closed communions, the day you stop excluding, the day you apologize to those who have been pushed out, is the day I will believe you. Not before.
ReplyDeleteDebbie,
ReplyDeleteI wonder, can you identify at all just what it is that you are answering for yourself?
Debbie,
ReplyDeleteI do not know ONE person that Bart Barber has ever excluded! Nor do I know of anyone that Bart has pushed out.
For that matter - I do not know anyone who has pushed anyone else out! Please name them!
Thirteen Days = best movie ever
ReplyDeleteThis scene is seen from the view of the White House
jmmath,
ReplyDeleteI agree. I love the part with Bobby Kennedy poised over the phone itching to pull Adlai Stevenson out. Stevenson really hit a home run, didn't he?
Debbie,
ReplyDeleteFor my part, I might exclude at least one person. :-)
cb
Bart:
ReplyDeleteInteresting and famous clip.
I must be missing something, at least as to the timing of the criticisms. Was Adlai Stevenson in favor of closed communion or something?
Was there some other post that these people are referencing?
Louis
Louis,
ReplyDeleteNow that you ask, Adlai Stevenson was actually a Unitarian whom Illinois Presbyterians accepted carte blanche for simultaneous membership in their church and the Unitarian Universalist church. Stevenson was, then, a heretic and a Presbyterian!
However, none of this has anything to do with this post. I asked a question at another blog. I simply posted this video while I am awaiting my reply.
Of course, Debbie would doubtless agree with the Presbyterian decision—she's against excluding anyone.
ReplyDeleteOne of the great ironies of this whole exchange is that Stevenson was a complete egghead who was usually about as exciting as Warren Christopher. But he certainly shone in this moment.
ReplyDeleteBart:
ReplyDeleteThanks for the info. I was doing some reading last night and saw your question. So now I understand.
Stevenson's reputation was rehabiliated with lots of folks by this exchange.
Louis
Truly, it is a great moment for Adlai Stevenson. Mention has already been made of "Thirteen Days." Throughout the movie, I confess that I was waiting for this moment.
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